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The More I Learn, The Less I F’ing Know. Episode 52

CrossFit Coaching Stud Ben Benson Drops In To Talk Competitive Fitness, His Life Direction and lots of other deep shit.


Episode at a Glance

In Episode 52 the Doc (Danny Matta) and Jock (Joe Szymanek) sit down with Ben Benson, who is the owner of CrossFit Terminus, coach to Emily Bridgers and the founder of the Squat Mafia which is his competitive fitness training program. You’d probably expect this episode to be your typical interview with a high level coach a couple weeks before the Open: programming, mental preparation..etc, however it’s totally the opposite. In this episode Ben, Danny and Joe dive into some pretty deep issues: like “Where do I stand on Competitive Fitness” “Where do I stand on CrossFit” “The dogma of CrossFit” and “What the hell happened at the 2015 CrossFit Games.” If you are looking for some hot tips on how to get to regionals this isn’t going to be the podcast for you. If you are looking to get a glimpse into a very real conversation that tons of high level coaches and athletes are having within the competitive fitness community, than block out the next hour off your life and prepare to have your mind blown.

Ben Benson’s Biography

Website: http://crossfitterminus.com

Instagram: @thebenbenson

Head coach, programmer, co-owner, athlete at CrossFit Terminus.  Ben Benson was a former climber, mountain biker, and outdoor adventure lover. He traveled the world with ice climbing, but eventually determined that long climbing trips didn’t fit into a normal lifestyle. He found CrossFit in 2007 and instantly became hooked, loving the idea of functional, measurable fitness that was able to be done in a short time domain. He has now coached CrossFit as a full time profession for over 7 years. Ben has also completed the CrossFit Movement and Mobility, Gymnastics, Basic Barbell, Endurance, Science of Exercise, and CrossFit Kids certification courses.

Ben appreciates quality of movement and holds his clients to the highest standard. Ben likes class structure and may seem rigid at first, but if you stick with him, he has a huge heart and is always concerned with how to better his athletes through exercise and lifestyle changes. With his tattoo flare, balanced with his perfect hair, you won’t miss this one of a kind coach when you walk into the gym! In the past Ben has coached/ programmed for a Georgia State, American and World Record holding powerlifter.

Ben has coached and programmed for multiple athletes during the 2015 CrossFit Games season, with a team (Team Terminus) and individual (Emily Bridgers) winning the 1st annual Atlantic region. He has been Emily’s coach for the past 5 years and together they celebrated a 6th place finish at the 2014 CrossFit Games, as well as an additional appearance at the 2015 CrossFit Games.  Additionally, Ben began coaching and programming for Stacie Tovar and Becca Voigt  through Regionals for their 6th and 8th CrossFit Games appearances respectively.


Quick Show Guide

0:00 – 3:52 Show Intro

Danny intro’s coach Ben Benson and gives our sponsors some shutouts.


Ben Benson details his background in climbing and mountain biking and tells us how one move on the side of icey rock changed his life forever and how that eventually led him into the world of fitness.


Danny and Ben get into a deep conversation on what it takes to be a competitive fitness athlete and is it really worth it. The conversation hits some interesting topics including the addiction to volume, and how competitive fitness is not CrossFit, as well as is the competitors lifestyle really what you want.  


Danny talks about the long term effects of competitive fitness from a Physio-Coach perspective.


Ben Benson talks about Emily’s 2015 CrossFit games, getting Rhabdo and how one strategy decision impacted the entire competition.


Ben Benson fills us in distancing his gym from competition, where he is headed within fitness and if high volume training is really the best route for people in general.


The conversation turns to the sometimes dogmatic approach to education inside of CrossFit (are the thought police coming for us?) and of course Joe turns it into a point Asian style of lifting (Push Not Pull).


Joe asks the universe for an interesting request.


Ben talks a little bit about breathing and how Brian MacKenzie got him to be a believer in wearing a training mask while he does his curls and lat pull downs.


Ben talks about coaching development and how his experience within fitness has guided how he treats his coaches. The guys also get into a higher level conversation on what it means to be a coach and what the job entails. The mantra here is “if you’re a dictator you’re a dickhead.”


Closing remarks.


Post Comments about this episode, potential topics, suggestions for interviews and questions to the Doc and Jock Website, facebook page, and twitter account.  Also be sure to reach out to Dr. Danny and Coach Joe at their personal social media accounts listed below in the show sponsor section.  

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Also, please check out these links to the articles and content creators mentioned during our conversation.

Website: http://crossfitterminus.com

Instagram: @thebenbenson

More on the Show Sponsors

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Coach Joe offers a variety of live and online training options including a private facebook group titled #HeelsOff where you can get his honest and FREE opinion on your movement and unfiltered take on Weightlifing. Join the conversation at any of the links below.

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Thanks for listening and remember, If you have a BODY you’re an ATHLETE


  1. Matt S says:

    Seems like you folks aren’t responding to these comments, but I’ll ask the question anyway…

    I’m due to renew my CF L1 cert, but I don’t actively coach CF at this point, nor does it seem likely that I’ll be coaching in the near future. I was going to let it lapse, and you’re podcast made me think even more about the failures in CF. Do you think there is much value in maintaining a L1 cert for those in the fitness/health/performance scene if not coaching at a box? For what it’s worth, I’m an outpatient physical therapist working for the US Army.

  2. Carolyn says:

    I got introduced to “Doc and Jock” because I wanted to hear the interview with Ben Benson, and not only was I impressed with Ben himself, but I have become a regular listener to the podcast, Intelligent without being pretentious, informative without being elitist, brilliant stuff! I commend Ben’s honesty about crossfit, because he speaks not only as one who knows his stuff, but as an insider, someone who loves the sport, but knows that like any other organization, there is room for improvement. He isn’t a sycophant, but he isn’t a hater, I respect that he has the courage to speak honestly. I have watched my son grow tremendously as an athlete at Crossfit Terminus, but more importantly as a person with integrity because he has had Ben, Emily and their coaches and athletes as role models.

  3. Coach Joe says:


    Sorry for the late response. Danny, nor myself are very tech savvy and simply didn’t know this section of the site was here!

    I hope this isn’t to late. Personally if you aren’t coaching i would let it lapse. I almost let mine go moving more toward weightlifting but understand that while coaching in a crossfit gym I should have the credential. you’ve been through the course, you understand the course, and telling most of the folks you treat that will be enough. without having the need to coach it doesn’t really matter. I also work with crossfit old so that also forced the issue for me. and to be upfront, if I had a solid PT in my gym, as an owner, if they wanted to contribute with a mobility night or something the last thing i’d do is check their resume or ask for there level one. in fact, I have coached in many gyms and never been asked for either. fact is in most cases if you are good you are good and the crossfit community is pretty good about judging folks on their performance, coaches included!

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